Recently I experimented with using ChatGPT to rewrite my podcast description for AI and Podcasting. It turns out that I barely used the text that we came up with BUT creating it helped me write the new description much faster and better than ever before. How is this possible? 😳 For more AI and Podcasting tips and info, check out the AI and Podcasting newsletter. aiandpodcasting.substack.com/😳 You can follow the experiment in audio, video or text below. What I want to share with you right now is the before and after copy (that's marketing speak for the TEXT that's used to connect).
Host Stephanie Fuccio does this with practical and playful experiments with ChatGPT (and some other LLMs here and there). A few experiments in, and the relief will wash over you because your podcast messaging will sound like YOU, which, you know, is the best way to represent your podcast! Listen on audio on Spotify (below) and any podcast app: AI and PodcastingWatch on YouTube:And you can read the transcript here:Steph:
What's the one thing, the one thing that you put out in the world with your podcast that more people see than other things, I think you'll be surprised. It's not your episode titles, it's your podcast description. And today I want to talk about how we can possibly improve our podcast description with Chat GPT. This is Steph from Coffeelike Media. If you need help doing any of this, either by coming on here and having me help you coach through using chat TPT and voice, or in text function, or you want something more private, or you want somebody else to help massage your messaging for you. Hi, I have some services and you can find all of that information in the links below. If you're watching this on YouTube, like and subscribe if you are, and in podcast form, it'll be in the show notes for you. If for some reason it is not a clickable link in any of those places that you're looking, aiandpodcasting.substack.com is where you can find all of the information and more, as well as the newsletter version of this that'll come with a few more treats for you on AI and podcasting, as the name suggests. Okay, let's get into this. I want to spend. I want to spend time on this. I want to do this because the past week has been death and taxes for me and I just need a big distraction of creativity. And I've got a new episode coming out with an actual guest, not just chatty, but that's taking me some editing to do. And so I want to dive into this one with just me and chatty today. So let's do this. I've got a bunch of different podcasts that I really like and admire, and I think they represent themselves in different interesting ways. So I'm going to be feeding chatty not just the context of who they are, what their expertise is, but also some examples of like tone and information and stuff like that from podcasts that I know. I'm going to be using the prompt, the voice prompt on my phone throughout this because I don't feel like reading any more text than I've been reading. Did I mention taxes are one of the things I've been swamped in? Okay. Yeah. So my eyes are crossing and my heart is breaking and all kinds of things are happening and let's just do this. Okay, so I guess I have to turn my phone up really loud and point chatty at the screen and hope that I can do this today. She's been fickle this week. Hello there. Hey there. ChatGPT: How's it going? Steph: Okay, I need some help with some writing for my podcast. ChatGPT: Sure, I'd be happy to help. What kind of writing do you need for your podcast? Is it an intro, a script, or something else? Steph: Okay. It's actually a podcast description. And. Hmm. I've got some examples, and I'd like to share those with you before we rearrange mine, before we massage mine. Can you ask me three questions for each example, but one at a time? And at the end of each question, ask me if I'm ready to move on to the next question. Is that okay? ChatGPT: That sounds like a good plan. Go ahead and share the first example and we can start from there. Steph: Okay. So the three questions I want you to ask me are, one, why? What is good about this example? Two, how do you want this example to relate to what we change in your podcast description? And three, what's missing from this example? Are you ready for the first example? ChatGPT: Yes, I'm ready. Please share the first example. Steph: Okay, so this is a podcast called list envy from Mark Steadman. And it says, hi. Fidelity meets Bullseye in this funny and fascinating list building podcast. Each week, host Mark Stedman talks to a new guest, and together they collaborate on a top five list with the topic chosen by the guest. Some episodes will have you screaming into your earbuds asking, why did Mark pick that? While others give you a whole new world to explore. Subjects range from science and tech to food, travel, pop culture, and the human mind. Guests have included inventors, comedians, musicians, scientists, and Hollywood screenwriters. New episodes come out every Tuesday. ChatGPT: Great. Let's dive into the first question. What do you think is good about this example? Are you ready to answer? Steph: I am. I really like the different parts that he has. I like that he describes what's in it, but he also describes kind of the resistance, or not the resistance, but the reaction that the listener might have. So there's emotions in it. And then I like how he explains when it comes out. ChatGPT: That's a solid analysis. Now, how do you want this example to relate to what we change in your podcast description? Are you ready to answer? Steph: I am. Yeah. I would like to. I would like to add the elements I don't have from what I just described to you. Should I read off my podcast description now and we can change it as we go? ChatGPT: Yes, that would be helpful. Go ahead and read off your podcast description, and we can start making changes based on what you shared. Steph: Okay, how can we best use chat, TPT, and other AI tools to reach the people we want to connect to with our podcasts. I'll be sharing ideas as I take serious deep dives into these tools one at a time. The current season is using chat GPT meta. ChatGPT: Let'S start with the third question about the example you shared earlier. What do you think is missing from that example? Are you ready to answer? Steph: Well, sure, but can you tell me what you think is missing? Sure. ChatGPT: One thing that might be missing from the example is a more specific call to action or that clearly distinguishes the pod pad from others. It might also benefit from more detailed examples of the kinds of guests or topics to expect beyond just broad categories. Now sorry, I'm having issues right now. Did not understand what you said. Steph: I didn't say anything. Please continue. ChatGPT: All right, given what's good about the example you provided and what might be missing, let's look at your description. Your current description is informative, but could benefit from a bit more detail and emotional appeal. We can add a brief description of the podcast's tone or style, a hint at the emotional reactions. Listeners might have clearer details on the release schedule, highlighting the variety or uniqueness of the content. Would you like to start making these changes? Steph: Yeah, I would. Please ask me those one at a time and I'll give you the information to add. ChatGPT: Sure. Let's start with the tone or style of your pod. How would you describe the tone or style of your podcast? Steph: Absolutely. I would say it's practical, experimental, and yet playful. ChatGPT: Great. Net. How would you like to describe the emotional reactions or responses you hope your listeners will have to your podcast? Steph: I think it would be a relief that it doesn't have to be serious and include a lot of research, like the heaviness of not knowing how to do it and just being playful with it, I think, will be a relief. I think relief is the biggest pun, is what I'm saying. ChatGPT: Understood. Now, could you clarify the release schedule for your podcast? How often do new episodes come out? Steph: That's where I'm not as good as Mark on this one. Not as good as that's the wrong way to say it, but honestly, I don't have a set schedule, and I'm doing that intentionally as its own experiment. So it's released when I find something to experiment with or to show people that I'm already doing. So when I have something to share, that's when I release it. It's been about once or twice a week generally, but it only comes out when there's something super valuable to share with folks as to how to use your chatty chattpt for their podcast messaging. ChatGPT: Got it? Based on that, we can phrase it as episodes are released when new insights or experiments with chat chippy P are ready to be shared. Does that sound accurate to you? Steph: Highly accurate. A little too formal. Can we be more informal, please? ChatGPT: Sure thing. How about this? New episodes drop whenever there's something cool or useful to share about using ChatGPT: for your podcast. Does that capture the casual vibe you're aiming for? Steph: Yeah, sure, that's fine. ChatGPT: Great. Let's summarize the changes we've discussed. We'll describe your podcast as practical, experimental, and playful in tone. Emphasize that listeners might feel curious. Steph: Actually, I trust you on the changes. Can you just make the changes and read out the end result of what the description might look like now? ChatGPT: Absolutely. Here's the updated podcast description incorporating our discussion dive into the world of podcasting experimentation with insights from chat GPPT. Discover practical tips and playful explorations as we uncover how to craft compelling podcast messaging. Join us for episodes that drop whenever there's something cool or useful to share about leveraging chat GPT for your podcast. How does that sound to you? Steph: The tone is not consistent throughout. Can we have it be slightly informal and definitely not use the word dive? ChatGPT: Thirdly, here's a revised version with a more consistent, informal tone. Explore the world of podcasting experiments with chat GPT insights. Get practical tips and playful explorations on crafting compelling podcast messages. Tune in whenever we've got something cool or useful to share about using ChatGPT: for your podcast. Does this version better capture the tone you're looking for? Steph: Yes, it does, but the information's a little off. It's for their podcast messaging, like the things they put out into the world in text form about their podcast, like their show notes, their social media posts, their podcast description, anything in text. ChatGPT: Got it? Here's a refined version based on your clarification. Explore the world of podcast messaging with chat GPT insighting get practical tips and playful explorations on crafting compelling text for your podcast. Whether it's show notes, social media posts, or your podcast description. Tune in whenever we've got something cool or useful to share about using chat GPT. Does this align more accurately with what you're aiming for? Steph: It does, but now we're missing how often it comes out. Also, with that list, can you add more? Because it's not just those three things. ChatGPT: Sure, let's integrate the frequency and expand the list. Explore the world of podcast messaging cool. Steph: I'll look at that in text later. Can we move on to the second example? ChatGPT: Of course. Please go ahead and share the second example. Steph: Okay, continue with our questions and adjustments. Okay, so this one is called, Ladies, We Need To Talk. It says sex, health, relationships. Frank, funny, furious. Join host Yumi Steins as she rips open the sealed section on life. Ladies, we need to talk. Goes deep on the personal stuff that's hard to talk about, even with your closest mates. From the wonders of your vocals to managing the mental load to the search for orgasms and much more. Man me. Sorry. With sensitivity, personal stories, and serious smarts, this show is for women who feel the squeeze between work, their private lives, and their pelvic floor. ChatGPT: Great. Let's start with the first question for this example. Steph: Okay. ChatGPT: What do you think is good about this description? Are you ready to answer? Steph: I am, yeah. I think the humor is good, and I think how it describes who the listeners are. How it describes who the listeners are, I think is really good as well. ChatGPT: That's a good observation. Now, what do you think is missing fromthis example? Ready to share your thoughts? Steph: I don't think anything's missing. I think it's really good. ChatGPT: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Would you like to read off your podcast description now, or shall we move on to the third example? Steph: I actually think we'll skip the third example. I think these first two and their good points are actually enough to pull into my description. Do you have a new description to read off? ChatGPT: Absolutely. Here's the revised podcast description, incorporating the elements we discussed. Explore the world of podcast messaging with practical tips and helpful explorations. Using chat GPT insights craft compelling text for your podcast, whether it's show notes, social media posts, your podcast description, and more. Episodes drop whenever there's something cool or useful to share about. Using chat GPT typically once or twice a week. How does this version sound to you? Steph: It's okay, but we're missing the emotional relief aspect, and I'm not in it at all. I have a feeling that host Stephanie Fuccio should be in there somewhere. ChatGPT: Got it. Let's integrate those aspects and include your name as the host, Steph: anie Fuccio. Here's a revised version. Okay, join host Steph: anie Fuccio as we explore the world of podcast messaging with practical tips and playful explorations. Using chat GPT insights crap. Compelling text for your podcast whether it's show notes, social media posts, your podcast description, and more. Tune in for episodes that drop whenever there's something cool or useful to share about. Using chat GPT typically once or twice a week discovers a podcasting world where practicality meets playfulness, offering emotional relief and insightful perspectives. How does this version sound now? Steph: Oh, I like it. I'm just not sure of the order of things. Part of me wants to front load the chat, CPT, and podcasting part to the beginning and end with the emotional stuff and put me somewhere in the middle. I don't need to be at the beginning. I really want the keywords to be at the beginning. ChatGPT: Understood. Let's rearrange it to emphasize chat GPT and podcasting at the beginning and end with the emotional aspects while placing your name in the middle. Explore the world of podcast messaging with practical tips and playful explorations using chat GPT insight. Join host Steph: anie Fuccio as we craft compelling text for your podcast. Whether it's show notes, social media posts, your podcast description, and more. Discover a podcasting world where practicality meets playfulness, offering insights and emotional relief. Episodes drop whenever there's something cool or useful to share about using chat GPT typically once or twice a week. How does this revised order feel to you? Steph: I love it. Thank you so much. ChatGPT: You're very welcome. I'm glad we could refine it to your liking. If you need any more help or have other questions for the future, feel free to reach out. Steph: Always tap the white thing when you want Teddy to stop. Otherwise she'll go on forever summing anything up. And always remember that you can x out and see the text of the entire conversation at any point. Because these are saved, you can go up to the top menu and click on any of the conversations you've had. You can come back to conversations and continue them. And unlike my own brain, chatty will just jump right in. Generally speaking, she did better today than yesterday. She actually kicked us out because we hit the limit yesterday on the free stuff. I'm still using the free stuff. I haven't gone over to ChatGPT4 yet, so I don't love it completely, but it's much better than it is. And it did incorporate the elements that I wanted. And that's the thing. You have to do the prompt chaining, you have to go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Sometimes I find it easier to do this in voice, and sometimes I find it easier to do in text. This particular one probably would have been better to do in text, but to be quite honest with you, my brain is melting out. So I decided to go complete voice today and do it that way. But yeah, so the reminders are to use examples. I didn't necessarily tell Taddy what kind of expert she was today because I was taking on the expert hat, the marketing expert hat. I wanted to have the say on what goes where and all that kind of stuff, and I had examples. So I used more samples than I did pretending that Chatty was a podcast description specialist. And to be quite honest with you, a lot of podcast descriptions are not great. So I didn't want to leave it up to whatever chat GPT tapped into in the collective podcast description world that would have tainted my description. So I'm going to use this description. I'm just going to massage it a bit more. I never use exactly what comes out of chat TPT because I am a control freak. So there's that. But you can do this with any part of your podcasting, messaging, messaging being the text that goes out into the world about your podcast, the episodes you, the host, the things that you do, the events you have, anything at all that's in text, your press releases, literally anything. And we'll dive into more of these with time. I've done a few of them already, and I've been interspersing them with different news and information that I'm finding in other podcasts and news sources that I like to talk about as well. So yeah, so there's all of that. So I hope this has been useful for you. If your podcast description is a bit anemic, needs some liveliness to it, or just needs your voice, literally, use your voice with the chat GPT app and talk it through how to make it sound more like you and more like the amazing podcast that I guess you probably have. Alright, I'm done for the day. This felt really good. Thank you for the distraction and I hope it helps you. Bye.
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